Joseph says this is his father’s, grandfather’s and great grandfather’s dreaming. The family is from Yuendumu. An Eagle turned into a man, the man into a snake which went to the rockholes where its tracks created the creek at Kurpuluntu. Then the snake turned into an eagle, the eagle into a man, the man into a snake and so on forever. As an eagle the man could go everywhere and when he did not like the place he just turned into an eagle and left it.